IF? the diaper heads were successful in bringing down 10
transatlantic flights from the UK to America, what would
have been the impact to the airline industry?

With high oil prices and a major terror attack can airlines
survive an attack of that magnitude?

I don't think so

"TomatoHead" > wrote in message
.. .
> IF? the diaper heads were successful in bringing down 10 transatlantic
> flights from the UK to America, what would have been the impact to the
> airline industry?
>
> With high oil prices and a major terror attack can airlines survive an
> attack of that magnitude?
>
> I don't think so

Sure they can. You really underestimate the ability of the American people
to forget.

I think the result would have been simliar to what happened after 9/11.
There would have been a periord of panic, followed by more radical changes
in airline security (especially overseas) and then slowly people would have
gone back to traveling the way they are now.

I'm not saying it wouldn't hurt and the government would probably have to
step in again with more help, but in the big picture of things, the industry
would survive in the long run. There are just too many people who want/have
to travel by air.

John Doe wrote:
> "TomatoHead" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>IF? the diaper heads were successful in bringing down 10 transatlantic
>>flights from the UK to America, what would have been the impact to the
>>airline industry?
>>
>>With high oil prices and a major terror attack can airlines survive an
>>attack of that magnitude?
>>
>>I don't think so
>
>
> Sure they can. You really underestimate the ability of the American people
> to forget.
>
> I think the result would have been simliar to what happened after 9/11.
> There would have been a periord of panic, followed by more radical changes
> in airline security (especially overseas) and then slowly people would have
> gone back to traveling the way they are now.
>
> I'm not saying it wouldn't hurt and the government would probably have to
> step in again with more help, but in the big picture of things, the industry
> would survive in the long run. There are just too many people who want/have
> to travel by air.
>
>
>

I am intrigued by the comment

"Government stepping in again to help"

Are you indicating the "Government" will run up the Federal
deficit credit card to help the airlines? The credit card
that is way over limit AND accumulating excessive late fees??

People love to fly including myself. However, the airline
industry in America as it stands now is a pathetic business
model.

> People love to fly including myself. However, the airline industry in
> America as it stands now is a pathetic business model.

What model do you recommend? How about letting airlines sell all
seat-tickets to commodity brokers just like they buy and sell barrels of
oil. Look how well that model does for the energy industry and how well we
all get screwed. Then we can all pay $1.00 per mile where ever we fly to.

Honestly, I think we all pay way too little for tickets. We're pilots here
and a lot of us understand the cost of maintaining a single-engined
aircraft. The cost of these behemoths is mind boggling.

Kobra

Kobra wrote:
>> People love to fly including myself. However, the airline industry in
>> America as it stands now is a pathetic business model.
>
> What model do you recommend? How about letting airlines sell all
> seat-tickets to commodity brokers just like they buy and sell barrels of
> oil. Look how well that model does for the energy industry and how well we
> all get screwed. Then we can all pay $1.00 per mile where ever we fly to.
>
> Honestly, I think we all pay way too little for tickets. We're pilots here
> and a lot of us understand the cost of maintaining a single-engined
> aircraft. The cost of these behemoths is mind boggling.
>
> Kobra
>
>
I'd say look at the Southwest model.

"601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiacona@coxDOTnet> wrote in message
...
>>
>> Honestly, I think we all pay way too little for tickets. We're pilots
>> here and a lot of us understand the cost of maintaining a single-engined
>> aircraft. The cost of these behemoths is mind boggling.
>>
>> Kobra
> I'd say look at the Southwest model.

What, in a nutshell, is their model?

Would that model work on a much larger scale (or rather, on larger loads and
over greater distances)?

Michelle

This is having a cumulative impact on passengers as the ragheads
develop alternative methods. I think the ultimate result will be that
everybody goes through a shower before boarding and wears only a
disposable paper bathrobe for the duration of the trip. After somebody
develops explosive cotton and polyester, clothing will need to be
checked.

paul kgyy wrote:
> This is having a cumulative impact on passengers as the ragheads
> develop alternative methods. I think the ultimate result will be that
> everybody goes through a shower before boarding and wears only a
> disposable paper bathrobe for the duration of the trip. After somebody
> develops explosive cotton and polyester, clothing will need to be
> checked.
>
You mean like this?

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/notices.php?notice=060822-ASP-EN

paul kgyy wrote:
> This is having a cumulative impact on passengers as the ragheads
> develop alternative methods. I think the ultimate result will be that
> everybody goes through a shower before boarding and wears only a
> disposable paper bathrobe for the duration of the trip. After somebody
> develops explosive cotton and polyester, clothing will need to be
> checked.
>

If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be prevented
from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.

In article <JpVGg.7987$cw.7480@fed1read03>, Sam Spade > wrote:

> If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be prevented
> from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.

You don't get it. Their religious dogma allows, even demands, any action
they want as long as it may help achieve their goals.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Noel ]
> Posted At: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:38 AM
> Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
> Conversation: Airline Terror attack
> Subject: Re: Airline Terror attack
>
> In article <JpVGg.7987$cw.7480@fed1read03>, Sam Spade
>
> wrote:
>
> > If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be
prevented
> > from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.
>
> You don't get it. Their religious dogma allows, even demands, any
action
> they want as long as it may help achieve their goals.
>
A true "ends justify the means" approach to life; quite contrary to
other cultures.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Noel ]
> Posted At: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:38 AM
> Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
> Conversation: Airline Terror attack
> Subject: Re: Airline Terror attack
>
> In article <JpVGg.7987$cw.7480@fed1read03>, Sam Spade
>
> wrote:
>
> > If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be
prevented
> > from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.
>
> You don't get it. Their religious dogma allows, even demands, any
action
> they want as long as it may help achieve their goals.
>
A true "ends justify the means" approach to life; quite contrary to
other cultures.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Noel ]
> Posted At: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:38 AM
> Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
> Conversation: Airline Terror attack
> Subject: Re: Airline Terror attack
>
> In article <JpVGg.7987$cw.7480@fed1read03>, Sam Spade
>
> wrote:
>
> > If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be
prevented
> > from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.
>
> You don't get it. Their religious dogma allows, even demands, any
action
> they want as long as it may help achieve their goals.
>
A true "ends justify the means" approach to life; quite contrary to
other cultures.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Noel ]
> Posted At: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:38 AM
> Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
> Conversation: Airline Terror attack
> Subject: Re: Airline Terror attack
>
> In article <JpVGg.7987$cw.7480@fed1read03>, Sam Spade
>
> wrote:
>
> > If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be
prevented
> > from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.
>
> You don't get it. Their religious dogma allows, even demands, any
action
> they want as long as it may help achieve their goals.
>
A true "ends justify the means" approach to life; quite contrary to
other cultures.

"Jim Carter" > wrote in message
news:00ad01c6c6b2$82fdb060$4001a8c0@omnibook6100.. .
>
> A true "ends justify the means" approach to life

It's called "Pragmatism".

>; quite contrary to
> other cultures.

Which cultures would those be?

Bob Noel wrote:
> In article <JpVGg.7987$cw.7480@fed1read03>, Sam Spade > wrote:
>
>
>>If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be prevented
>>from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.
>
>
> You don't get it. Their religious dogma allows, even demands, any action
> they want as long as it may help achieve their goals.
>

Oh, I sure do get it. I get very well that this country is doomed
because of its political correctness.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Spade ]
> Posted At: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:22 AM
> Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
> Conversation: Airline Terror attack
> Subject: Re: Airline Terror attack
>
....
>
> Oh, I sure do get it. I get very well that this country is doomed
> because of its political correctness.

Amen brother! Er, I respectfully concur with my fellow citizen...

In article <00d701c6c70c$af928d30$4001a8c0@omnibook6100>,
"Jim Carter" > wrote:

> Amen brother! Er, I respectfully concur with my fellow citizen...

isn't "fellow" sexist?

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel > wrote in
:

> isn't "fellow" sexist?
>
Nope.


--

"paul kgyy" > wrote:

>
>This is having a cumulative impact on passengers as the ragheads
>develop alternative methods. I think the ultimate result will be that
>everybody goes through a shower before boarding and wears only a
>disposable paper bathrobe for the duration of the trip. After somebody
>develops explosive cotton and polyester, clothing will need to be
>checked.
>
Not to mention the body cavity searches for contraband.

Ron Lee

"John Godwin" > wrote in message
. 3.50...
> Bob Noel > wrote in
> :
>
>> isn't "fellow" sexist?
>>
> Nope.
>


Now Feller...

Al G

Bob Noel wrote:
> In article <JpVGg.7987$cw.7480@fed1read03>, Sam Spade > wrote:
>
>
>>If everyone rode nude then the Islamic "crusaders" would be prevented
>>from boarding the aircraft by their religious dogma.
>
>
> You don't get it. Their religious dogma allows, even demands, any action
> they want as long as it may help achieve their goals.
>

If airlines would require that all passengers wrap their
heads in Bacon before boarding the towel heads would not fly

Maybe some porky pig cartoons on the inflight also

You've seen this, from 2004?
(warning: profanity)

http://www.thekidfrombrooklyn.com/video_disp.asp?videoid=1183

Bernie

"Ron Lee" > wrote in message
...
> "paul kgyy" > wrote:
>
>>
>>This is having a cumulative impact on passengers as the ragheads
>>develop alternative methods. I think the ultimate result will be that
>>everybody goes through a shower before boarding and wears only a
>>disposable paper bathrobe for the duration of the trip. After somebody
>>develops explosive cotton and polyester, clothing will need to be
>>checked.
>>
> Not to mention the body cavity searches for contraband.
>
> Ron Lee
>